[Bolling5] BollingResearch Digest, Vol 21, Issue 6

Mon Dec 6 13:47:12 EST 2010

Hi all
I am not sure how to reply to you guys are send a message so hope i'm
figuring it out.
I am new to the group and a new researcher. My husbands family is group 5
back to Obediah and Sarah. I am uploading docs on the family wagon train
1852 from alabama to arkansas lead by John preacher Bolding/bolling and his
brother Billy and all the families. I have yet to explore the alabama roots
so I am following you all and your info.
Thanks for allowing me into the group and know I am a fast learner so I will
get this right.
Bettye Bolding

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>   1. Re: Fw: BOWLING--Do these connect to us?? (Mike Moffitt)
>   2. Re: Fw: BOWLING--Do these connect to us?? (Hazael Taylor)
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> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 16:02:56 -0600
> From: Mike Moffitt <mmoffitt at austin.rr.com>
> To: Bolling Family Group 5 <bollingresearch at bolling5.com>
> Cc: dawoakes at worldnet.att.net
> Subject: Re: [Bolling5] Fw: BOWLING--Do these connect to us??
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> Hazael:
>
> I'm going to try to attach some info on the membership of the Fork of the
> Little River Church.  Quite a few of the members had ties back to Goochland
> Co.
> I'm not sure if this will work but, if not, I'll try something else.
>
> -- Mike M.
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2010, at 7:09 AM, Hazael Taylor wrote:
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > I do not know past David Nowlin ...in what was Rutherford...but becomes
> Buncombe Co. NC.    Doris' Margaret Nowlin m. Robert Patterson there in the
> marriage records.    My James Bolling b. 1780 in VA somehow connects to the
> Jacob Phillips in Buncome Co. NC as he is the person who sells him his land.
>   This land is however in Pendleton then later Pickens Co. SC.  They may not
> have been really related at all.  But  we know they knew each other.
> >
> > I am kin to this same line but by a 2nd wife.    So the Nowlins are the
> mother of the 1st wife.   I have not been able to trace them further.
> Don't know if Doris knows more or not.  I have added her above in cc
> addresses.
> >
> > We do know that Shubal, John, and Jesse Bolin all connect at Bumpers Fork
> of Little River.  Can you post the church records for that church?    I have
> not posted the Bumper's Fork deed as another DNA group claims these folks.
> >
> > Mike are you in Group 5 DNA?
> >
> > We have a Jesse Bolling and another group has a Jesse Bolling....and they
> are another DNA group.  [Group 3 claims a Jesse and many in Group 4 or 6
> also claim Montgomery Co. NC.  It is a hodgepodge with some known bastardy
> bonds having been filed.
> >
> > Let me add, however, that Thomas Pleasants that you mention below as a
> Quaker is supposedly in our line also.   However, some folks do not accept
> that.   So far I have found no supporting "outside family lore" documents to
>  absolutely prove it.  AND I might add that it is one that I have spent
> countless hours ....maybe a life time trying to prove.
> >
> > I can get them all pretty close, though, in Halifax Co. VA.  And because
> Mitchell Bolling of Halifax is maybe the same one in Montgomery Co. NC....I
> can kinda connect those two places.
> >
> > Hazael Taylor
> > From: Mike Moffitt <mmoffitt at austin.rr.com>
> > To: Bolling Family Group 5 <bollingresearch at bolling5.com>
> > Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 10:34:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Bolling5] Fw: BOWLING--Do these connect to us??
> >
> > Hi Hazael:
> >
> > This is really getting interesting.  The Nowlins you mentioned in NC --
> are they by any chance related to a James Nowlin/Nowling, d. 1749, Goochland
> Co., VA?  He had sons John, Daniel, and Stephen.
> > According to a transcript of James Nowlin's will, proved March 20, 1749,
> he owned land adjacent to Col. John Bolling in Goochland Co. and also
> adjacent to Edmund Lilly on Byrd Creek.  This Edmund Lilly, b. 1728 (md. to
> Sarah Dumas) went on to Anson/Montgomery Co., NC  and was a member of the
> Forks of the Little River Church that my 7th gen. grandfather John
> Bolin/Bolling, Sr. helped start.   Both Willoughby/Willaby and Shubal Boling
> who went on to GA are said to have been sons of my John, Sr. although to my
> knowledge there is no actual proof.  I've even seen some speculation that
> Delaney Bolin/Bolling who went on to MO? (I think) by around 1805 was
> another possible brother.
> >
> > Also, a number of those neighbors on Byrd Creek in Goochland Co., VA in
> the mid-1700's were originally Quakers, including Edmund Lilly, the Andrew
> Moorman family, John Anthony, Abraham Venable, Thomas Pleasants, etc.
> > Edmund Lilly and his Dumas in-laws and the Moormans, and perhaps some
> other neighbors, pulled up stakes and went to Anson Co., NC around 1760.
> >
> > Mike M.
> >
> >
> > On Dec 3, 2010, at 3:17 PM, Hazael Taylor wrote:
> >
> >> The Bolin in Buncomb Co. NC is Layney...[is this Delayney?] 1790 census
> near some of mine and Doris' other families...Nowlins etc.
> >>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 17:57:18 -0800 (PST)
> From: Hazael Taylor <haztay at yahoo.com>
> To: Bolling Family Group 5 <bollingresearch at bolling5.com>
> Cc: dawoakes at worldnet.att.net
> Subject: Re: [Bolling5] Fw: BOWLING--Do these connect to us??
> Message-ID: <295246.2351.qm at web80808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>
> It did come through....but very tiny print.? So I googled Morgan Edward's
> Notebook and lo and behold the entire thing came up and in big print so I
> could
> read it.?? Thank you so very much.?? I have been at this 40 years and had
> heard
> this reference...but there had never been a footnote to tell us where the
> info
> came from.?? There it is in black and white and authenticated.?? Thank you
> so
> very much!???
>
>
> I think I noticed another name or two....[one being Solomon Langston] who
> lives
> eventually very near my James Bolling in S.C. .?? I will read the entire
> thing
> and then make some comments.
>
> Hazael Taylor
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mike Moffitt <mmoffitt at austin.rr.com>
> To: Bolling Family Group 5 <bollingresearch at bolling5.com>
> Cc: dawoakes at worldnet.att.net
> Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 4:02:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Bolling5] Fw: BOWLING--Do these connect to us??
>
>
> Hazael:
>
> I'm going to try to attach some info on the membership of the Fork of the
> Little
> River Church. ?Quite a few of the members had ties back to Goochland Co. ?
> I'm not sure if this will work but, if not, I'll try something else. ?
>
> -- Mike M.
>
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2010, at 7:09 AM, Hazael Taylor wrote:
>
> Mike,
> >
> >I do not know past David Nowlin ...in what was Rutherford...but becomes
> Buncombe
> >Co. NC.??? Doris' Margaret Nowlin m. Robert Patterson there in the
> marriage
> >records.??? My James Bolling b. 1780 in VA somehow connects to the Jacob
> >Phillips in Buncome Co. NC as he is the person who sells him his land.??
> This
> >land is however in Pendleton then later Pickens Co. SC.? They may not have
> been
> >really related at all.? But? we know they knew each other.
> >
> >I am kin to this same line but by a 2nd wife.??? So the Nowlins are the
> mother
> >of the 1st wife.?? I have not been able to trace them further.?? Don't
> know if
> >Doris knows more or not.? I have added her above in cc addresses.
> >
> >We do know that Shubal, John, and Jesse Bolin all connect at Bumpers Fork
> of
> >Little River.? Can you post the church records for that church???? I have
> not
> >posted the Bumper's Fork deed as another DNA group claims these folks.??
> >
> >Mike are you in Group 5 DNA???
> >
> >We have a Jesse Bolling and another group has a Jesse Bolling....and they
> are
> >another DNA group.? [Group 3 claims a Jesse and many in Group 4 or 6 also
> claim
> >Montgomery Co. NC.? It is a hodgepodge with some known bastardy bonds
> having
> >been filed.
> >
> >Let me add, however, that Thomas Pleasants that you mention below as a
> Quaker is
> >supposedly in our line also.?? However, some folks do not accept that.??
> So far
> >I have found no supporting "outside family lore" documents to? absolutely
> prove
> >it.? AND I might add that it is one that I have spent countless hours
> ....maybe
> >a life time trying to prove.
> >
> >I can get them all pretty close, though, in Halifax Co. VA.? And because
> >Mitchell Bolling of Halifax is maybe the same one in Montgomery Co.
> NC....I can
> >kinda connect those two places.
> >
> >Hazael Taylor
> >
> >
> ________________________________
> From:?Mike Moffitt <mmoffitt at austin.rr.com>
> >To:?Bolling Family Group 5 <bollingresearch at bolling5.com>
> >Sent:?Fri, December 3, 2010 10:34:45 PM
> >Subject:?Re: [Bolling5] Fw: BOWLING--Do these connect to us??
> >
> >Hi Hazael:
> >
> >
> >This is really getting interesting. ?The Nowlins you mentioned in NC --
> are they
> >by any chance related to a James Nowlin/Nowling, d. 1749, Goochland Co.,
> VA? ?He
> >had sons John, Daniel, and Stephen.
> >According to a transcript of James Nowlin's will, proved March 20, 1749,
> he
> >owned land adjacent to Col. John Bolling in Goochland Co. and also
> adjacent to
> >Edmund Lilly on Byrd Creek. ?This Edmund Lilly, b. 1728 (md. to Sarah
> Dumas)
> >went on to Anson/Montgomery Co., NC ?and was a member of the Forks of the
> Little
> >River Church that my 7th gen. grandfather John Bolin/Bolling, Sr. helped
> start.
> >? Both Willoughby/Willaby and Shubal Boling who went on to GA are said to
> have
> >been sons of my John, Sr. although to my knowledge there is no actual
> proof.
> >?I've even seen some speculation that Delaney Bolin/Bolling who went on to
> MO?
> >(I think) by around 1805 was another possible brother.
> >
> >
> >Also, a number of those neighbors on Byrd Creek in Goochland Co., VA in
> the
> >mid-1700's were originally Quakers, including Edmund Lilly, the Andrew
> Moorman
> >family, John Anthony, Abraham Venable, Thomas Pleasants, etc. ?
> >Edmund Lilly and his Dumas in-laws and the Moormans, and perhaps some
> other
> >neighbors, pulled up stakes and went to Anson Co., NC around 1760. ?
> >
> >
> >Mike M.
> >
> >
> >???
> >
> >On Dec 3, 2010, at 3:17 PM, Hazael Taylor wrote:
> >
> >The Bolin in Buncomb Co. NC is Layney...[is this Delayney?] 1790 census
> near
> >some of mine and Doris' other families...Nowlins etc.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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