[Bolling5] Native American - Bentley

Mon Mar 29 17:05:03 CDT 2010

This William Bentley may have been the son of my William Bentley and Barbara Zellner.  I descend through William and Barbara's daughter, Mary.  They move north from Georgia,  first to Grainger County, TN, then to Hawkins County, TN.  William evidently dies in Hawkins County, TN before 1860.

Arvina 

From: EPERRY4616 at aol.com 
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:56 PM
To: bollingresearch at bolling5.com 
Subject: Re: [Bolling5] Native American - Bentley

On 1850 census it is just Martha Wren Bentley Bolding and James Bolding. Look right below that listing and you will see J. T. Wren as the next family. She was executor of William Bentley's estate and then married James Bolding, A minister and called General on the census. They had no children together, but she had three by William Bentley, they are James L., Nancy, and Franklin Evan Bentley. I have copies of the orphan court records. Contact me at sonja1938244 at aol.com. Franklin was made a ward of Moses Bonner. Also look on the Bentley family site done by A. Bentley.

In a message dated 3/29/2010 11:05:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, EPERRY4616 at aol.com writes:
  On 1850 census it is just Martha Wren Bentley Bolding and James Bolding. Look right below that listing and you will see J. T. Wren as the next family. She was executor of William Bentley's estate and then married James Bolding, A minister and called General on the census. They had no children together, but she had three by William Bentley, they are James L., Nancy, and Franklin Evan Bentley. I have copies of the orphan court records. Contact me at sonja1938244 at aol.com. Franklin was made a ward of Moses Bonner. Also look on the Bentley family site done by A. Bentley.

  In a message dated 3/29/2010 10:24:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, haztay at swbell.net writes:
    I should have said Martha Wren  the widow Bentley.   You can google that name Martha Wren m. William Bentley and see some of their line.

    --- On Mon, 3/29/10, haztay at swbell.net <haztay at swbell.net> wrote:

      From: haztay at swbell.net <haztay at swbell.net>
      Subject: Re: [Bolling5] Native American
      To: "Bolling Family Group 5" <bollingresearch at bolling5.com>, "DON and SHEILA" <hein.ma at gte.net>
      Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 8:25 AM

            Arvina,

            My family has a widow Mary Wren Bentley as a wife to my James Bolding [Rev.] who was first married to Anne Pickens daughter of Captain Robert Pickens.  They are seen in 1850 census in Franklin Co. Ala. census...but their next door neighbors....[somehow kin] Lucy Bolding & her children did move north.  Lucy's children have male group 5 DNA so we don't know what happened to their father.

            Hazael

            --- On Mon, 3/29/10, DON and SHEILA <hein.ma at gte.net> wrote:

              From: DON and SHEILA <hein.ma at gte.net>
              Subject: Re: [Bolling5] Native American
              To: "Bolling Family Group 5" <bollingresearch at bolling5.com>
              Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 8:16 AM

              Yes, Arvina - we have the "legend" of Native American Ancestry, but no proof.  I am pretty sure that many in both my family and my husband's drew back up into the hills and adopted "English" names.  My mother-in-law once told me about a young couple who fell in love - "she wasn't captured and he wasn't a chief - they just fell in love".  When I mentioned this after her death - the family jumped down my throat - they will deny it to this day, but I know what she said.  I also know that her grandmother was an Allen who was born in Running Water district of Marion County TN.  I also know that there were Allens listed as intruders in Indian Territory.  
              Our Boling DNA appears to be European, so chances are we don't have male Native American Heritage in this particular branch of the family tree. 

              Not even sure how my Harrison came to be a Boling - his DNA doesn't match beyond the 12 markers.  Oh well, however that became the name - after 200 years, I think we'll keep it!  LOL!

              Sheila

              From: Arvina Copeland 
              Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 5:25 PM
              To: Bolling Research 
              Subject: [Bolling5] Native American

              Sheila,

              You posted an inquiry on 3/16/2010 asking, "Could John have been Native American?"  I tried to reply, but my e-mail bounced.  I had some technical issues to deal with at the time, but they may be resolved now.  In my mother's family, I found a similar situation.  In the census, there was the mother and child in the household, but no apparent father, starting in 1850.  Earlier, they had lived in a southern state.  They started moving north at the time of the "Indian Removal", eventually living in Clay County, KY.  That child in the household was Francis "Frank" Bentley.  His daughter was Mary Bentley Root, my grandmother.  My mother and aunt, shortly before their death (since 2000), admitted reluctantly, that their mother, Mary Bentley Root was 1/4 Cherokee.  I asked where it came from, her mother or father.  They said that they  did not know.  I asked, "If you were guessing, which side do you guess?"  Finally my mother said that if she were guessing, she might guess the Bentley side.  The other side were Beckners and all accounted for.  Now, that still does not prove the Indian heritage.  The Bentley side has posted the family details from the southern state for the entire family, their spouses, and so on.  This daughter, Mary Bentley is simply listed as being born.  She lives with parents and they move north.  

              Arvina 

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