[Bolling5] DNA testing
Hazael Taylor
haztay at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 31 17:15:21 EDT 2011
Diane,
There were several Larkins....really quite a few Larkin Bolin/Bollings. There
was Larkin who was in Randolph Co. NC, and there was Larkin son of Joseph [and
Val]Bolling who was also in Sullivan Co. for a time period then moved...can't
remember where in Tenn. and then the Larkin who was in Sullivan Co. Tennessee.
guess you have to Bolling to test for DNA if you were from a daughter's
daughter.
Hazael
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From: "dadstree at aol.com" <dadstree at aol.com>
To: bollingresearch at bolling5.com
Sent: Mon, October 31, 2011 2:12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Bolling5] DNA testing
Hazael
I think he is the John of Sullivan Co. Tn. The census says he was born in
Tennessee, daughter Susannan was born Tn. abt. 1835, her daughter (illegimate,
bn
1857 Indiana, died 1882 in English Indiana. That is all I have. My dad started
this research in the 1960s and I took it over, rashly promising I would complete
it.
So far not making much progress on his paternal line!
Diane
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From: Hazael Taylor <haztay at yahoo.com>
To: Bolling Family Group 5 <bollingresearch at bolling5.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 2:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Bolling5] DNA testing
Diane,
Is your Larkin the son of John Boling of Sullivan Co. Tenn?; or the Joe & Val
Larkin? PS If John you match my man 67/67....but I cannot find my original man
before that.
Hazael
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From: "dadstree at aol.com" <dadstree at aol.com>
To: bollingresearch at bolling5.com
Sent: Mon, October 31, 2011 11:46:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Bolling5] DNA testing
Arvinia,
You have given one of the best definitions of testing I have seen and you are
right that the Bolling Group 5 is doing well. They are fantastic! I can offer
no research but follow the posts with interest. I enjoy the cooperation and
speculation and wish my Bell research was doing as well. The DNA 67 match is
yielding few responses and fewer results. I am envious and happy to add
information about Nancy Bolin, gd of Larkin (Tn. 1801). Kudos to all of you and
thanks for letting me "listen in."
Diane at dads tree
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From: Arvina Copeland <arvinalilliancopeland at hotmail.com>
To: Bolling Family Group 5 <bollingresearch at bolling5.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 12:02 pm
Subject: [Bolling5] DNA testing
First of all. The Bowling Family Association. It includes many groups where
their only connection is having the same surname. They are in different
haplogroups. There is no paper trail even. They are not even non paternal
events. Some surname groups will not include you under those circumstances.
It would be unlikely for the many different unrelated groups of the Bowling
Family Association to be united in research and finances for the unrelated
ones. As Group 5 has found, it is quite a task to find your own line and to
keep track of it.. I think Group 5 has done very well.
What the Sizemore Group has established is that the Native American ancestry is
from the male line and that the female line is European. They have established
which lines are related and which lines are not. As you can realize, there will
be no paper trail on the Native American ancestry. They have researched and
posted all earlier Sizemore records, for this is the line of their maternal
descent. Records for lines of maternal descent are very hard to come by in the
1600 and 1700’s.
My Reynolds Surname Group(which I can’t join) is from my father’s maternal
grandfather. I participate in discussions. After each one had researched their
own Kentucky and elsewhere relatives, a Reynolds DNA testing group was
established. This was to discover if there was any connection between these
lines and to establish a connection in the 1700’s. In the 1600’s and 1700’s,
the records are so sparse, that is a real waste to research a line that you do
not belong to. When a descendant of a particular Reynolds was desired, but
could not be found, I said that I had a cousin that I would contact out West,
who was a fit. I got the cousin in touch with the group, he paid for his own
testing, and yes, our line is closely connected. Proof is established
For Bowling Group 5, the DNA testing has really help me in my research. Testing
to 67 markers and deep clade testing(on my part) has established that Bowling is
my maternal line of descent and where the occasion took place in time, 5 greats
back. I have paid for several others(they had no interest) to test to either
eliminate or to connect them.There are 4 of us Bowlings descending from sons of
John/Jack Bowling(1790 VA), son of Ann(1749 Pittsylvania County, VA) There are
2 descendants of Robert Bullington(1747 Pittsylvania County, VA) who have been
tested and they are a match to us. One was tested with Sorenson and the other
with Family Tree. Those two match each other AND share a paper trail. They are
each from a different son of Robert. The Family Tree tested one is a 65/67
match to my brother. This is what I’ve accomplished in the short time that you
all have known me, while staying at home caring for an invalid husband. I first
tried solely the paper trails and there was something strange there. The DNA
testing revealed what it was. You, Group 5, are really on to something, with
your research of related families and their connectedness. Deep Clade Testing
on at least one Group 5 testee would establish the earliest known point of
origin for this group for when you go to look for your European ancestry. Has
anyone had this done? Mine has been tested as far back as Family Tree can do at
the present and I’m awaiting the results of the last test at this moment. What
Group 5 is doing that is different from Sizemores and Reynolds is that there are
more Chiefs in this operation. In other words, there are more capable
individuals collaborating in the research, instead of just a few. Group 5 is
the best run group that I’m associated with. They work together like ants
without a commander or leader.
I noticed when I researched George Alves, that he transported another individual
at the same time as our James Bowling, and there was a little online story about
the fellow and where he came from in England. I’m going to look at the others
in that group of transports and see if there was any connection between them
like you are doing with the Bowlings on this side of the ocean and the families
that they traveled with.
Arvina
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