[Bolling5] Randolph Co. and Montgomery Co., NC Bollings
Hazael Taylor
haztay at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 31 21:54:17 EDT 2011
I am nearly positive that these are the same family. The deed of Jesse Bolin
to his son John mentions Bumpers fork of the Little River....and it is right
where the river crosses the county line of Montgomery and Randolph. But has
your Bolling line been DNA tested?
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From: Mike Moffitt <mmoffitt at austin.rr.com>
To: Bolling Family Group 5 <bollingresearch at bolling5.com>
Sent: Mon, October 31, 2011 8:37:06 PM
Subject: [Bolling5] Randolph Co. and Montgomery Co., NC Bollings
I'm not sure about my line connecting to Jesse Bolling or any of that Randolph
Co.,NC group. My Reed/Read family, that married into my Bollings, was most
definitely from the Deep River section of Randolph Co. dating back to 1760 and
living near the (Enoch) Spinks and Bird families. My Sarah Bolling and John
Reed did have a child named Jesse, but that was a fairly common name back in
those days. My Bolling/Bolens appear to have been primarily in Montgomery/Old
Anson Co., NC.
FYI, this is what I have presently pieced together for the children of my John
Bolling of the Little River in Montgomery Co., NC:
..... 1 JOHN BOLLING b: Abt. 1729 in VA, d: Abt. 1790 in Montgomery Co., NC
..... +MARY ? m: Abt. 1754 in VA or NC, d: Montgomery Co., NC
........... 2 SARAH BOLLING b: Abt. 1767 in Montgomery Co., NC, d: 1845 in
Bedford County, TN
........... +JOHN REED b: 1764 in Deep River, Randolph County, NC, m: 31 Jul
1783 in Prob. Randolph County, NC, d: 17 Nov 1839 in Bedford County, TN
................. 3 Elizabeth Reed
................. +Thomas C. Price d: Bef. 1819 in Rutherford Co., TN
................. 3 Jesse Reed
................. 3 Mary (Polly) Reed b: 1784 in Randolph Co., NC, d: Aft. 1840
in Pea Ridge, Benton Co., AR
................. +Adam Dunlap Jr. b: Abt. 1772, m: 1810 in Blount Co., TN, d:
Aft. 1831, m: 31 Jan 1797 in Blount Co., TN
................. 3 WILLIAM A. REED b: 1795 in Randolph County, North Carolina,
d: Bef. 1860 in Henderson County, Tennessee
................. +MARY b: 1796 in North Carolina, m: Abt. 1815 in Prob. NC, d:
Aft. 1860 in Henderson County, Tennessee
................. 3 Lamberd Reed b: Randolph Co., NC
........... 2 John Bolen b: Abt. 1755 in Unknown
........... 2 Lucinthia or Lucretia Bolen b: Abt. 1769 in Montgomery Co., NC
........... +Jesse Hurt b: Abt. 1756 in Maybe Bermuda
........... 2 David Bolen b: Unknown in Prob. Montgomery Co., NC, d: Abt. 1805
in Probably Randolph Co., NC
........... 2 Shubal Bolen b: Aft. 1759 in Prob. Montgomery Co., NC, d: Aft.
1800 in Prob. GA
........... 2 Willoughbey ? Bolen b: Unknown in Prob. Montgomery Co., NC
........... 2 Mitchel? Bolin b: Unknown in Montgomery Co., NC
Mike
On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Hazael Taylor wrote:
I looked up your family in the 1850....and was thinking perhaps you are very kin
to the Larkin son of Jesse Bolling of Randolph Co. NC....which somehow Mike
Moffit also connects to....but I don't know if his person has tested to Group 5
DNA. Anyway, the Floyds- neighbors - listed North Carolina as their place of
birth. Perhaps since the county was also named Floyd you could google the
history of the county and find out where they came from in NC....and if it was
Montgomery or Randolph then you would be that Larkin or one of his
relatives...and they had a family history of several of their siblings moving to
Indianna. Mark Bolin was one mentioned in that letter....and I don't remembe
the other's names.
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From: "dadstree at aol.com" <dadstree at aol.com>
>To: bollingresearch at bolling5.com
>Sent: Mon, October 31, 2011 4:45:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [Bolling5] DNA testing
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>I did post a few months asking for information on Larkin. And I had lots of
>replies from this website which I appreciated. You all get a grade A+.
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>Here is about all I have on my Bolins. Larkin is in Sullivan Co. Tn. 1830 with
>wife Sarah, 3 children; 1840 he is in White Tn., 1850 in Greenville In and in
>1860 in Jackson Washington In. By 1870 he is back in Greenville (Floyd Co.)
>In. While searching I surmised his father was John Bolin in Tn. and had a
>general agreement from some postings.
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>Wife Sarah is not listed in 1870. Children were James bn abt. 1877, served and
>died in the Civil War; Elizabeth bn 1830, married Noah Floyd, had a son named
>James and one named Larkin and died abt. 1920; and finally my great-great
>grandmother, Susan/Susannah, bn. 1835 and had daughter Nancy (Nannie) bn 1857.
>Susan married widower John Wyman in 1877 and became stepmother to his 6
>children. John was a civil war vet and in her pension request she said she had
>never married before and they had no children. Her stepson Grant cared for her
>and terminated her death in 1930 when she died.
>Her daughter Nancy married Moses Scott Bell September 16, 1877. He was a
>widower with twins. Nancy and Moses had three sons, Walter Clarence, John
>Arthur and Charles Edward. Nancy died in 1882 of penumonia and Moses
>remarried. The oldest of her three sons was less than three and the youngest,
>my grandfather, about 6 months old when she died. The three boys never knew her
>so there no family stories. I doubt there was any contact between the two
>families after her death. DNA testing is difficult since it was the maternal
>line for my grandfather and he is died in 1964.
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>Thanks to everyone
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>Diane 2 (dadstree)
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>From: eperry4616 <eperry4616 at aol.com>
>To: bollingresearch <bollingresearch at bolling5.com>
>Sent: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 5:11 pm
>Subject: Re: [Bolling5] DNA testing
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>Diane2 --
>Are you saying you have a Larkin Bowling [of some spelling] in Indiana who was
>in TN in 1835? If so, do you know any other surnames allied with him? These
>people usually traveled in groups... perhaps his in-laws? Thanks,
>Ernie
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: dadstree <dadstree at aol.com>
>To: bollingresearch <bollingresearch at bolling5.com>
>Sent: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 12:13 pm
>Subject: Re: [Bolling5] DNA testing
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>Hazael
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>I think he is the John of Sullivan Co. Tn. The census says he was born in
>Tennessee, daughter Susannan was born Tn. abt. 1835, her daughter (illegimate,
>bn 1857 Indiana, died 1882 in English Indiana. That is all I have. My dad
>started this research in the 1960s and I took it over, rashly promising I would
>complete it.
>So far not making much progress on his paternal line!
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>Diane
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Hazael Taylor <haztay at yahoo.com>
>To: Bolling Family Group 5 <bollingresearch at bolling5.com>
>Sent: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 2:50 pm
>Subject: Re: [Bolling5] DNA testing
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>Diane,
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>Is your Larkin the son of John Boling of Sullivan Co. Tenn?; or the Joe & Val
>Larkin? PS If John you match my man 67/67....but I cannot find my original man
>before that.
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>Hazael
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From: "dadstree at aol.com" <dadstree at aol.com>
>To: bollingresearch at bolling5.com
>Sent: Mon, October 31, 2011 11:46:07 AM
>Subject: Re: [Bolling5] DNA testing
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>Arvinia,
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>You have given one of the best definitions of testing I have seen and you are
>right that the Bolling Group 5 is doing well. They are fantastic! I can offer
>no research but follow the posts with interest. I enjoy the cooperation and
>speculation and wish my Bell research was doing as well. The DNA 67 match is
>yielding few responses and fewer results. I am envious and happy to add
>information about Nancy Bolin, gd of Larkin (Tn. 1801). Kudos to all of you and
>thanks for letting me "listen in."
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>Diane at dads tree
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Arvina Copeland <arvinalilliancopeland at hotmail.com>
>To: Bolling Family Group 5 <bollingresearch at bolling5.com>
>Sent: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 12:02 pm
>Subject: [Bolling5] DNA testing
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>First of all. The Bowling Family Association. It includes many groups where
>their only connection is having the same surname. They are in different
>haplogroups. There is no paper trail even. They are not even non paternal
>events. Some surname groups will not include you under those circumstances.
>It would be unlikely for the many different unrelated groups of the Bowling
>Family Association to be united in research and finances for the unrelated
>ones. As Group 5 has found, it is quite a task to find your own line and to
>keep track of it.. I think Group 5 has done very well.
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>What the Sizemore Group has established is that the Native American ancestry is
>from the male line and that the female line is European. They have established
>which lines are related and which lines are not. As you can realize, there will
>be no paper trail on the Native American ancestry. They have researched and
>posted all earlier Sizemore records, for this is the line of their maternal
>descent. Records for lines of maternal descent are very hard to come by in the
>1600 and 1700’s.
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>My Reynolds Surname Group(which I can’t join) is from my father’s maternal
>grandfather. I participate in discussions. After each one had researched their
>own Kentucky and elsewhere relatives, a Reynolds DNA testing group was
>established. This was to discover if there was any connection between these
>lines and to establish a connection in the 1700’s. In the 1600’s and 1700’s,
>the records are so sparse, that is a real waste to research a line that you do
>not belong to. When a descendant of a particular Reynolds was desired, but
>could not be found, I said that I had a cousin that I would contact out West,
>who was a fit. I got the cousin in touch with the group, he paid for his own
>testing, and yes, our line is closely connected. Proof is established
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>For Bowling Group 5, the DNA testing has really help me in my research. Testing
>to 67 markers and deep clade testing(on my part) has established that Bowling is
>my maternal line of descent and where the occasion took place in time, 5 greats
>back. I have paid for several others(they had no interest) to test to either
>eliminate or to connect them.There are 4 of us Bowlings descending from sons of
>John/Jack Bowling(1790 VA), son of Ann(1749 Pittsylvania County, VA) There are
>2 descendants of Robert Bullington(1747 Pittsylvania County, VA) who have been
>tested and they are a match to us. One was tested with Sorenson and the other
>with Family Tree. Those two match each other AND share a paper trail. They are
>each from a different son of Robert. The Family Tree tested one is a 65/67
>match to my brother. This is what I’ve accomplished in the short time that you
>all have known me, while staying at home caring for an invalid husband. I first
>tried solely the paper trails and there was something strange there. The DNA
>testing revealed what it was. You, Group 5, are really on to something, with
>your research of related families and their connectedness. Deep Clade Testing
>on at least one Group 5 testee would establish the earliest known point of
>origin for this group for when you go to look for your European ancestry. Has
>anyone had this done? Mine has been tested as far back as Family Tree can do at
>the present and I’m awaiting the results of the last test at this moment. What
>Group 5 is doing that is different from Sizemores and Reynolds is that there are
>more Chiefs in this operation. In other words, there are more capable
>individuals collaborating in the research, instead of just a few. Group 5 is
>the best run group that I’m associated with. They work together like ants
>without a commander or leader.
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>I noticed when I researched George Alves, that he transported another individual
>at the same time as our James Bowling, and there was a little online story about
>the fellow and where he came from in England. I’m going to look at the others
>in that group of transports and see if there was any connection between them
>like you are doing with the Bowlings on this side of the ocean and the families
>that they traveled with.
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>Arvina
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